Think I'm an idiot? Want to try to tear me apart? Read these first, cause the chances are that somebody else has already said what you're thinking and I shot them down on it. However, feel free to e-mail me another one, because I quite enjoy these.

From: Midnightlafter28@aol.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 3/28/03
Subject: I'd love to see u think of a come back for this one!!!!!!!

Ok dumass...You can't tell me that you click on every single fucking ad that jumps up at you when you're at a site.

No, I don't. And where did you read in my rant that I was asking people to click on said ads? Go back and read it again, you dumb fuck. Done? Right, I didn't say that, now did I? I get paid by however many people view the ads, not how many click on them. Nice try...learn what you're talking about next time.

No, nobody does. And you can't expect every one that comes to your site to click on fuckin ads just so you can get fuckin 50 cents.

Get this through your thick head: websites cost money to run.

Ok People don't click on the fucking ads for two reasons: One because they're not at the site to look at fuckin ads and shit.

Do you watch TV or listen to the radio just to see/hear commercials? No, but if it weren't for commercials, there would be only premium channels on TV and no more free radio stations.

Two because the ads are fuckin annoying, right as you go to click on something they pop up all over the screen.

Actually, if you haven't noticed, the ads on my site, and almost all non-warez and non-porn sites are unobtrusive pop-under ads. The only sites that have annoying multi-pop-ups are warez or porn sites or some site you shouldn't be visiting, or you have a bunch of spyware on your computer, which is a whole different problem. People try to blame the pop-ups they're seeing on the site they're visiting when in reality it's because of spyware they installed themselves on their own computer. For example, one of my coworkers was complaining about pop-ups, yet she doesn't go to any shady websites that would have loads of pop-ups. So, I gave her a program that removes all spyware from a computer, and what do you know....90% of her pop-ups stopped and on top of that, her computer ran much better afterwards.

And another thing, the internet could live without fuckin pop up ads!!!!!

Yes, it could, but the only sites that would exist would be shitty little personal geocities sites, or sites that sell something. Informational sites like mine would cease to exist, or would go to paid subscriptions. I could go on and on all day listing the free sites that have already gone to full or partial paid subscriptions. espn.com, fark.com, gamespot.com, somethingawful.com, ign.com, pollstar.com, need I go on?

People can still get free shit without them. Hell, I am sure that you didnt create your site because you saw an ad at one of your little fuckin Porno-Satan worshipping sites, no you didnt!!!

First off, I created my site because I enjoy doing such things, but then I decided I was sick of paying for it out of my own pocket, so I put up ads. Second, porno-satan worshipping sites? What the hell are you talking about?

I've said it before and I'll say it again you can't expect people to come to your site just to click on some fuckin pop up!!!!

And I said it once in my rant, but you didn't comprehend it, so I said it again in this e-mail, but you probably won't comprehend that either, so here it goes again: 1. No one has to click on anything! 2. They aren't pop-ups! 3. Websites cost money to run!

And also people arent going to change to get you fuckin money. You fuckin self centered bastard!!! Blockin people from your site just because they didnt click on an ad to get YOU rich is not gonna get more hits on your fuckin site!!!! So you propablyjust lost money!!!! FUCKER!!!!

Wait, how would I lose money? In fact, I would save money. Each visitor to my site costs me money. If that person lets an ad load, they're paying for their visit. If that person doesn't let an ad load, they're technically stealing off of me. BUT, if the people that don't let the ads load aren't even allowed access to my site, then that person doesn't cost me any money. My hits would decrease, my ad revenue would stay the same, but my bandwidth costs would decrease, therefore saving me money. It's simple economics, son.

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From: prince_hendrix@yahoo.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 3/8/03
Subject: hey

It is both insignificant and ignorant to think that you should open a website about TOOL or The Revrend Maynard or anything to do with TOOL.

I haven't opened a website about Tool or Maynard. It is a personal/lyrics site that I just happened to take inspiration from Tool for my domain name. That hardly makes it a site about Tool. And if you want to bitch about my use of 'RevMaynard', it's called an alias. Do you use your real name for everything online? No you don't, just look at your e-mail address, mr. hypocrite.

Obviously you don't have any creativity of your own or you would be doing something more constructive other than using old material to persue your own benefits .

What the hell are you talking about? What old material am I using, and what benefits of my own am I pursuing?

It is a mochary to everything that TOOL stands for .

Oh, really? What do they stand for then? They're against people using a moniker that relates to them in any way? They're against people taking inspiration from them to name their domain?

I have seen them 3 times and see them every chance i get. But I do not build my life around them.

What, are you implying that I do? You're going to make an assumption about my entire life just from my online alias and my domain name? Yeah, that's gonna be real accurate there, buddy.

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What are you, 12?

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From: decieved_always@yahoo.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 2/25/03
Subject: Theories

Hello, my name is Anthony Delcollo. First I would like to say to you that you are obviously wasting your life working at Staples and going to a technical college. Then again, what am I saying?! Your logic is flawed and you would thus not be equipped to handle a more intellectual career. I am sorry for this opinion which I believe to be true.

How am I wasting my life? I work full time doing something I enjoy, so that I can pay the rent and pay my tuition, so when I do finish school I can get out of my current position and get paid more for doing what I enjoy. There's nothing wrong with going to a technical school. I spent 2 and a half years at a private liberal arts college, and as far as the ones around here go, they really suck for technical/computer related fields. I spent those 2 and a half years in the only computer-related program they had, computer science, which I found out I really hated. So I left there to study something I would enjoy. But please, give me your suggestion as to how I can stop 'wasting my life'.

I do not mean to insult you.

Ha. What an asinine statement. That's like punching someone in the face and saying "I do not mean to cause you pain."

However I would like to point out that you are a hypocrite, as the vapid viewers of your site have suggested in the past. You pass on the cliché and overused, "God is a fairy tale; God ruins everything. Hey! Follow me in angst and apathy and we can ALL BE FRIENDS." You go on to deny the fact that anyone can ever know the truth about life after death. Choose a side, please. I personally find that agnosticism is the only way to go, even if you pray or follow a religion, to admit that no one can know is wise. I do this. You should consider it as well; you would find it to be a respectful and useful course.

There is no 'choosing a side'. It's not as black and white as that. There can be, and is, a gray area. I am pretty much agnostic, I know that no one can know for sure whether there is or not. However I tend to think there is not. I don't deny the existence of a god, but I don't think there is one. Who knows, I could be wrong

Now for your music. I do not understand how one could call grating monotonal shouts "music." I did, however, read that you listen to classical music. Keep it up, and you will find that it is worth your while.

Well, anything that has a rhythm can be called music. So yeah, whether you want to be childish about it and call it 'grating monotonal shouts', then go for it, that's your opinion, but you can't say it's not music. It's pleasing to me and I admire the talent, that's all that matters to me, not whether it's 'monotonal' or not. Which by the way, isn't even a word.

Thank you for listening to my advice as to how to improve this... life of yours. I hope that it is well met and you at least reply to say that you read this humble little letter of mine. You may IM me on AIM, under the screen name AnthonyDelcollo. Thank you.

Let me ask you this, why do you want to try and improve my life? I've said on my site that I couldn't be happier than I am right now. I'm happy where I'm at, I'm happy who I'm with, and I'm happy what I'm doing. You think by changing myself to your ideals and views, that will make me happier? But I do have to give you credit....it takes balls to say you don't mean to insult me after you did try to insult me, and then proceed to attempt it 2 or 3 more times. Simply hilarious.

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From: MysticChild6@aol.com
To: RevMaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 10/5/02
Subject: My opinion on your opinion

I read your thing on your thoughts about religion. How you hate uneducated people talking about religion. I think that you are the one who is without education on religion. You don't understand the Bible, or God's work. You think the Christian religion is an insecure group that needs comfort in numbers.

It is. Why else would you need to join an organized religion? Why can't you just worship your God and follow your faith on your own terms? Why the need to gather in herds?

My religion, the way I understand it in my educated perseption,

Tell me, how have you been educated? Was it in an unbiased manner? Was it from a teacher or parent that gave you all the materials and information on many religions and let you make up your own mind? Or was it someone in your church, or a parent that made you go to church when you were little? See, there's a difference between being educated about the religion you were raised in, and being educated in all religions. Let me ask you this... and please please please answer this, because I've asked it many times and everyone always avoids it... but why did you pick your religion? Why yours over the many others that are available? Here's a quote for you: "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

is that Christianity is about helping those who are lost and without God find peace.

I have found peace. I'm an extremely happy and peaceful person... and get this, I did it without religion. *gasp*

Also, to say that the Bible was written by some man is ridiculous.

Silly silly girl. Learn to comprehend what you're reading. I didn't say it was written by some man. I said it was written by man. As in people, as in human beings. Durrhh.

I guess you think the Bible is a book that talks about the right and wrongs. But if you were educated on religion, you would know the the Bible comes from many different prophets (a person who spreads God's word) and taken from journals from Jesus's Disciples to Roman soldiers. For these people to see on the same level at one point in time is a miracle, and for them to all agree is something more.

Are you kidding me? Sure, they're similar, but there's so many discrepancies and hypocrisies between the different prophets it's just downright funny.

The Bible is the word of God, people simply listened and followed God. God wrote the Ten Commandments, he speaks of peace and justice. Moses and Jesus were his own, they worked for him to spread the word. Part of my religion is not needing to have tangible truths. We don't need to see God and talk to him to now that he is there.

So when it comes to not needing to have tangible truths, then why stop at religion? Why not make it part of the rest of your life? Why not make up an imaginary dream life for yourself and tell everyone that you're going to leave to live in your perfect life? Oh, that's right, because you'd be considered insane. Why not believe everything everyone tells you? Why not believe a child when he says he has an invisible friend? After all, you don't need tangible truths, right? What it all comes down to is if you don't need tangible truths, you're living in an imaginary world with limitless possibilites.

You cannot say that you take various parts of religion.

Umm yes I can. Since when is there a rule that everyone has to follow one specific religion?

Satan is not a religion, it is a sin.

Well, the Satanism you're thinking of IS a religion. Just as much as your religion is a religion. But the Satanism I agree with on some points is not the same one you are thinking of.

Satan has already taken you over and because you do not believe in God's word, you are allowing Satan to control your life and your mind.

Satan doesn't exist! How can something that doesn't exist control me?!?!

It's a sad thing. And because you are so ignorant you are passing on the Devil's word.

I'm ignorant?! Who's the one that thinks devil-worshipping is the same thing as Satanism? And you say you're educated religiously? Ha!

His work to bring you on his side, to fight against God, to love Hell.

How can I love a place that exists only in people's minds?!

You cannot love God but bless Satan.

Umm ok.

Your pathetic and arrogant and it is you who is the uneducated one.

Blah blah blah. Ok, if I'm so uneducated, then you educate me on Buddhism. Tell me, what are the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism? How about the Five Pillars of Islam? Ever even heard of Zoroastrianism? Shinto? Sikhism? Hmmm?

I don't need to curse at you to get my point across. I hope that some day you realize what you are missing.

I'm not missing anything. My life is quite complete as it is.

It could be a great place to live if you weren't determined to hate so much.

Again, it's already a great place to live. And I don't 'hate so much'. I simply disagree.

I don't know what happened to you that made you feel this way,

Hmm let's see, what happened to me....hmmm....how about... I was raised with an open mind?

but I know God is forgiving, and if you want to He always accepts you, and maybe it will be good for you to try and educate yourself by reading the Bible before you dismiss it.

How about you educate yourself by reading the Koran, the Torah, the Dhammapada, etc. before you dismiss them?

I agreed with you and what you said with those parents that didn't take care of their children. But children can't be morons. They need direction and when their parents don't step up to the challenge than the children become confused and mislead. Since you realized this, maybe it is in your best interest to use that. Instead of putting down things you should try and turn it into something positive, like educating people on their kids.

What, so when I see an unfit parent, I'm supposed to tell them what I think? You see, this almost always happens at work and I work in retail sales. Therefore, it would be silly of me to speak up, unless, of course, I wanted to lose my job.

And why not have kids of your own? It wouldn't be a bad thing. Kids are a blessing.

Yes, it would be a bad thing. One, I would much rather spend my money on going to concerts or vacations or a new car than on diapers and new school clothes for the kids. Two, my relationship with my fiance is about us. Us and us only. It happens in every single marriage, when they have kids, they themselves grow apart. They're nowhere near as close as they were pre-kids. I don't know exact statistics, but I'm willing to guarantee there's a much higher divorce rate among couples with kids than there is with couples without kids.

I've been around kids all my life and they are truly wonderful. They are so innocent and they try so hard for appreciation.

Right. And if that's what you see and enjoy, fine, knock yourself out. But I have no use for children in my life.

I just think that before you want to put religion down and dismiss it, you should really get to know what you are up against,

Likewise.

because it doesn't make you sound smart and impressive. It makes you look very close-minded and all of those things that you hate in other people. Later.

You think I come off as closed-minded, so you send me an e-mail where you show yourself to be very ignorant of other religions? Nice logic there.

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From: guitarthrash00@yahoo.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 6/8/02

Hey. I came across your website a long time ago and I wasn't really interested. Well I came across it again recently and I have to say I got a good laugh out of it. I was planning on writing a good email but x_life_lived_clean_x@hotmail.com already did a good job of stating what I think. Really I think you should take what he said seriously. You do fit the MTV metal kid stereotype perfectly - watches MTV and listens to the radio for their nu-metal music,

Hmm, that's kind of odd, seeing as how I don't even have MTV and there aren't any radio stations in my area that play "nu-metal" -- it's all classic rock and country sadly. And you apparantly didn't read any of my responses to his comments. If barely over half of the bands that I list as my favorites have been played on MTV or radio, then how do I fit that stereotype?

likes to bash anyone that follows an organized religion,

Yeah? And? Organized religions are a waste of time and money.

used to listen to rap,

Hey, rap was decent in the late 80's and very early 90's.

claims to be 'open-minded' while what you really are is the opposite - a very close minded person who thinks that there is no possibility that they could be wrong.

Where did I say I'm right about everything and there's no way I could be wrong? Where is it? Point it out to me. Right, you can't, because I never said or even implied that. Of course I can be wrong about things, no one is right about everything.

I have to say that I find it hilarious that you bash organized religion yet you follow your own made up religion. If you claim to not believe in God then have faith in your faithlessness!

Dammit, don't take everything so literally. I said that to get a point across -- that you don't need to follow someone elses idea of religion, that you should follow what you think is right. If you're going to worship a god, do it on your own terms, not someone elses.

I'm a very strong athiest but I don't waste my time telling people that they're wrong because some people find good things through religion.

Neither do I. I don't go around preaching. I just put my beliefs on a webpage, and people can read them if they want to. If they choose to get offended, they're idiots because they didn't have to read it in the first place.

Just because I think that that their God doesn't exist and that their religion is corrupt shouldn't interfere with their fun. Same with the music people listen to. I really don't like rap, pop, and country but if people think that it's good music then fine.

Wait wait....first you (inaccurately) attack me for what I listen to, then you say you don't care what other people listen to? That you don't waste your time telling people that the music they listen to is shitty? Hmmmm....I smell a hypocrite.

It's not like people that listen to those genres take music seriously anyways. The only genre of music I have a little problem with is nu-metal because it enforces all these kids to think that it's so cool... and it really isn't.

You're right, it isn't cool. No music should be cool, because that means a weak-minded person is going to be influenced by the "coolness" of it and ignore the actual musical talent of the band/genre. I mean hell, I listen to classical now and again and that's certainly not cool, is it? But hell, it's relaxing and beautiful and takes a shitload of talent to compose. And you seem to think I started liking all these popular "nu-metal" bands when they became popular so I could be cool, right? Wrong. Most of the bands that I like that have hit it big like Incubus, Slipknot, System of a Down, Static-X, etc...I have liked long before radio had ever even heard of them. I started liking them because they were innovative and different and I enjoyed their music....and then everybody else caught on too.

Every time I try to make these kids listen to an Unseen or Crass album they either pretend to like them or say 'what the fuck is this shit? got a slipknot cd?'. I'm glad you're starting to get into things other than mainstream metal. Good job.

Wait...so you're implying that mainstream metal sucks....isn't that a little pretentious? Being anti-mainstream is just as bad as only listening to mainstream stuff, in my opinion. Just listen to whatever you think sounds good, not what it's classified as.

So anyways I'm sorry I attacked you.. this email wasn't ment to do that but it came out that way. I hope you don't go through this hate mail and just deny and insult me back like you did with all the rest of the hate mail.

Deny it? What the hell else am I supposed to do? You attack me with uninformed/ignorant statements, what else would I do? Say "Oh yes, you are so right, I'm going to accept your allegations and change my ways"? And as for insulting you back, I'm only going to treat a person the way they treated me. If they come off as intelligent, non-condescending and respectful towards me, I'll treat you right back the same way. But if they come out swinging like you and most of the other people on that page did, I'm going to defend myself, it's as simple as that.

From: guitarthrash00@yahoo.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Date: 6/10/02

I guess getting a responce to a hate mail that wasn't well written kind of changes what you think. Yeah I came off as a hypocritical asshole.. sorry. I just kind of thought that your views weren't really well defined and your hate mail kind of got repetitive from denial.. but I went on to say other things. I should have done that differently. Oh and I don't know what I was on when I said I didn't care about people listening to genres I don't care for. I really shouldn't have said that because I do care. At 14, music is my life and I just have the reflex of insult other people's musical tastes because barely anyone my age listens to the stuff that I do. I'm sorry for what I said to you and hope that you didn't take anything seriously.

Uh huh...that's what I thought.

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From: Samiboo41@aol.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: revmaynard is a poser!!!!
Date: 4/8/02

whats up "revmaynard"? I was reading through ur shit and i came across the thing about how everybody is the same. Im a 16 year old anarchist and I wear Etnies skate shoes. does that make me like everyone else?

That's not my point, genius. My point is, if you're doing it because everyone else does it, you're a piece of shit that needs to think for yourself.

i know so many people like you who have red or black hair. so that makes you and I apart of pop-culture. if you want everyone to be them selves stop dying ur hair black and red.

Wait....because you know so many people like me who have red or black hair, then that means we're a part of pop-culture? Yeah, that makes alot of sense. And well, we're not really a part of pop-culture. I think what you mean is we've been influenced by pop-culture. But everyone has been influenced by pop-culture unless they've lived with no contact with the outside world their entire lives. Oh, and don't make assumptions about me. I dyed my hair like that once because I thought it would look good.

ur a fake and a hippocrit. Get a life you poser...

How am I a fake and a hypocrite (not hippocrit)? What am I faking? Because I dyed my hair red and black once, I'm a fake and a hypocrite? Dude, you are such a fucking moron, you seem to think the whole point of my site is "anti anything mainstream or pop-culture". It's not. I'm saying to think for yourselves and not to do stuff just because everyone else does it.

you like the movie slc punk? you are part of the trash steve-o talks shit about...

Really? How so? The whole point of that movie was that if you have to try to be punk, you're not punk...in fact, you shouldn't try to be anything....just be you. Hmm that sounds familiar, oh yeah, it's what I've said on my site about 50 times, dick. Now go away.

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From: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
To: kevin031385@hotmail.com
Subject: Guestbook
Date: 3/21/02

Hey U tub of lard, picture this for a second dumbass. You eventually get out of college. you and your girlfreind get married, u have sum freak ass kids of yours who grow up to like country music and want to know christ, what r u gonna do u fucken boner.

Actually, we've both agreed we don't want kids. They're annoying, a pain in the ass, take away your privacy, and cost a lot of money. And even if I did have kids, my biggest fear would be that they ended up an illiterate fuck like you.

By the way u r a hipocrit and your girlfriend is so far outta your league my dear boy. maybe u should invest in sum stilts u little fuck wad.

See, there's this thing that doesn't depend entirely on looks...what's it called....oh yeah! Love. Ever heard of it? Hmm..wait, no, you wouldn't know it, you're obviously just like most everyone else in America in that you think looks are everything.

By the way mushroom head sucks so much dick they probably walk on their knees, they ripped of slipknot so bad. With the regular B.S. of masks and costumes and crappy nazi imagery.

Ha! You are a fucking moron. Mushroomhead formed in 1992 and released their first cd in 1993. Slipknot formed in when? 1995? Released their first cd when? 1996? So answer me this, how exactly did Mushroomhead rip off a band that didn't even exist yet?

U know what u r. your the type of guy that hops on a bandwagon, wants to be different, but deep down is still the same as everyone on else just more ignorant and stupid, u make me sick, u conformed to a conformity,

What the fuck are you talking about? I conformed to a conformity? How so? The fact that I like Mushroomhead or what? If so, that's highly unlikely seeing as how I've been a fan since 1998 and they're just now starting to hit it big. If you're not referring to that, please fill me in. Don't be vague when you're trying to attack me.

dont B.S. us with shit like God doesent exist, your afraid of truth and u know it,

What truth? Just because you believe in something doesn't mean it's the truth. And why would I be afraid of it? If it were the truth (i.e. a proven fact), I would gladly accept it.

instead u will always hide behind these conformist veiws of yours,

What conformist views? The fact that I don't believe God exists? How is that conformist? So all other atheists are conformists? If you go by that logic, anyone that has the same religious belief as at least one other person is a conformist.

ive met people like u and u r all the same, with that i dont give a fuck attitude,

Obviously I do give a fuck, otherwise I wouldn't have this website, genius.

which prooves your ignorance and hipocracy

Actually, you only made me seem ignorant and a hypocrite by making up the fact that I have a "i don't give a fuck attitude" when I don't.

....YOU LOOSE, YOU GET NOTHING, GOOD DAY SIR!!!

I loose? I'm the opposite of tight? Hmm. I get nothing? What was I trying to get? Hmm. You're confusing.

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From: matthew bartlett
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Wassup?

Hey dude

I don't wanna sound like a dick, but I disagree with you and this is not meant in a malicious way...okay?

Umm, I just read through the whole thing and, yes it was.

Yo what's up with your head man? You think you're so friggin' different man. You listen to all the mainstream shit. You're just another one of those "I'm so different, look at me" pieces of trash.

Where did I say I was so different?! Answer me that....please!

A true antisheep is someone who doesn't have to pronounce to the world that they are so different.

Where did I pronounce to the world that I am so different?!

You're just as much a sheep as everyone else. You dye your hair black,

I dyed my hair black once.

you're so angry,

I'm not angry, just easily annoyed. Stop making assumptions, ass.

you hate organised religion, you don't believe in God, you believ in yourself? Sound like Marilyn Manson anyone? GROUPIE!

I'm a Manson groupie? Wow, you've got me figured out...yep, you're dead on, bucko.

You say you mustn't judge people by what they do or what they look like? But you bash all Christians who strongly believe the religion? You're confused.

I bash all Christians? Huh....could've fooled me. You're taking my words and putting your own interpretation behind them. I don't bash Christians, I bash Christianity/organized religion and anyone who doesn't think for themselves.

And you hate homophobes? Well then on the your "about me" attention seeking page, you say you filled in one of those "gay" survey things? You sound a little prejudice to me? So only gays fill those things in right?

It wasn't used as a derogatory term the way you seem to think it was. In the sense I said it, any number of words could have been substituted in there and it would have had the exact same meaning. It's the meaning behind the word that matters, not the word itself.

Teeny boppers do suck

Dude you say that that one guy who said God gave you life whether you like it or not is a sheep. Why? You tell everyone to have their beliefs. He believes you were created by God. What makes him the sheep?

No...the chances are he doesn't have his own beliefs. Chances are that those are someone elses beliefs (most likely his parents) that were forced down his throat at a young age.

Most sane people don't need their religion? Mmmm... Where else do you turn? People are unreliable...dogs are the most reliable thing else.

Where else do you turn for what?!

I believe in God and I pray to him. It seems to help.

How so? It helps with what?

I am not a Bible basher,

Obviously.

I don't preach, and i don't go to church as I don't believe you should have to give your money to God for him to love you anymore.

Good for you, at least you have a little sense.

Dude all I am saying is that you are the narrowminded one, not us. We all are given a choice in life. Some of us take a nicer, more pleasant path,

....more closed-minded, more ignorant path...

with less hatred and we can still be different. If you can't see past anyone else's choices you are narrowminded.

I can see past their choices IF it's their own choices, but most of the time when it comes to organized religion, it's not their own choices, it's the choices of the person(s) who raised them.

You are the type of pig that give us males the bad image. You are the male population that causes people around the world to believe girls are 3 years more advanced than us.

By trying to get the word out that you should think for yourself, I'm giving the male gender a bad image? Huh...funny how that would work.

A lot of the people who claim to be Christian who email you and swear and call you an asshole. Well they're also hypocrites...so I'm on your side there if you think that too. You ever notice that?

I think you need someone to talk to and you need some anger management courses

How do I need someone to talk to and need anger management courses because I'm easily annoyed by stupidity and ignorance and I preach free-thought?

From: matthew bartlett
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Re: Wassup?

Hey dude

I been thinkning about it...sorry man, you do what you want, I will never meet you ever...I'm from South Africa so...

Hey anyway, have a good life

Cheers

Uh huh.

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Well, another fuck that signed my guestbook anonymously. Now he doesn't get a chance to reply to my responses. When will people learn that attacking someone anonymously just makes you look stupid. It's like punching someone in the back of the head, and hiding behind a tree before they get a chance to see who did it. Cowards.

i'm sorry man, but i think everything you say is bullshit. first of all, to be such an avid manson follower, you should know all his opinions that so drastically changed your life are just show. everything he does and says is done for attention. he's even admitted. wake up, you know how the industry goes, what draws attention is what people buy.

Where did I say I was an avid Manson follower? I did a research paper on him once, and I enjoy his music somewhat. That's not really what I call 'avid'.

you think you're so open minded and liberated, but you're just as confused and unintelligent as the rest of us. you say how bad you hate followers or "sheep" but i dont see how your any different. you conform with non-conformist. you also say how bad you hate judgemental people, but from what i read, you hate every hick and christian because they believe differently than you.

First off, 'you conform with non-conformist'? I know what you're trying to say, and I don't think I do...but that was rather incoherent, don't you think? Second, I don't hate Christians, I never said I do...I hate Christianity and organized religion in general. As for hicks...I'm certainly not going to get along with someone that has the typical hick qualities, but I don't hate them.

and to believe in keeping ones beliefs and opinions to ones self, you dont have a problem putting yours on the internet for the whole world to see.

Now you see, there's a small difference here...let's see if you can comprehend it. I'm not spreading my beliefs to anyone who doesn't want to read them. I'm not shoving propaganda down your throat and trying to scare you into following my way. I just put my thoughts and beliefs on a website for anyone to read that's interested.

and also according to what you've written here, its okay to hate hicks, christians, and probably anybody from the south,(that sounds pretty close-minded), its not okay to hate gay people. i don't hate gay people by any means, it's just an example. it's not okay to hate anybody.

What the fuck are you talking about?! Where do I say that I hate anyone? I Don't! I hate Christianity/organized religion and dislike the typical hick, but I don't hate anyone. Get that through your fucking heads, people. You seem to think that when I express disdain for a particular belief that I automatically hate anyone that has that belief. Morons.

i don't understand. i don't think you understand either, but i bet you've gotten alot of attention from this whole thing havent you. you're still a sheep, just following a different shephard now. the only opinion i'm gonna give

Are you retarded? Everything you've said so far is your opinion about me.

is that i think you're a scared little 23 yr old boy, afraid of how disgustingly ordinary you are.

Uh huh. Ordinary in terms of what? If you saw me on the street, you'd think I was very ordinary, and I am. Except for one thing, I take pride in the fact that I believe I'm a free thinker. Closed-mindedness and ignorance are humanity's worst enemies.

i've also studied the satanic bible, i know all about it. enough to know the guy La Vey or what ever his name was, was also full of shit and very confused about christianity. i don't see whats wrong with joining an organized religion, some people like to feel like they belong to something. what's wrong with that.

So go join a club or something. I'll say it again, the only purpose organized religion serves is to make money and scare people. You can believe in whatever god you want and have faith in whatever you want, but do it on your own terms. There's no need to follow a group of other people's preset standards when it comes to faith.

you're as close-minded and judgemental and hypocritical as any christian, hick, or muslim. but i guess you dont have a problem with any other religion, just christianity, huh? they're the great oppressor aren't they. you may hate them, but they don't hate you.

No, actually I think all organized religion is bullshit...it's just that Christianity is at the top in terms of ignorance and closed-mindedness.

grow-up. think a little more thuroughly next time, before you put more horse shit on the internet for everybody to see and some dumb,christian,hick makes you look stupid in front of the whole world again.

Where was I when that happened? *shrug*

i feel sorry for you.

I feel sorry for people who have to sign guestbooks anonymously. Honestly, why didn't you leave your e-mail address?

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From: x_life_lived_clean_x@hotmail.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: slight gripe

nice attempt i suppose. i just happened to stumble across this site while doing a research paper. the goal of my paper was to prove the similarity between the pop rock bands of today and boy bands and things of that nature. funny that i got referred here. from this point i want you to know that it seems very plain to see that you just get a kick out of telling people they're wrong,

No, I like telling people how I see things, and I like making fun of stupid people...that's it.

so i realize whatever i say will just get some comment back but i feel like i'll say it all anyway. i started looking through all parts of the site and the comedy just continued to build. now i also went to the hate mail section. it's pretty easy to deny everything isn't it? it also seems very easy for you to be superior. i'm sure you'll just come back with some snide remark about how you never did anything that i'm talking about, but i'm going to continue anyway. you have proven yourself to be hypocracy at its very finest. you are saying your mind is open, and you are all accepting, but take a good hard look at yourself. by doing all of this you are putting yourself on this pedastal engraved with, "i am better than all you mindless idiots".

No, I don't think I'm better than anyone else. I feel I'm more educated and as a result, better off, when it comes to music and religion than most people in this country.

now that doesn't seem too open to me. if you really were to accept everything like you say you do, you would understand that not everybody views the world as you do. not just because they haven't seen things as clearly as you, but because they choose to live the way they do. if they are ignorant they are ignorant, and that's that. by expressing your anger towards these "stupid" people you only breed hate and even more ignorance.

How so? I don't hate anyone and I'm not being ignorant.

so as i stated before, you have labeled yourself with a mark of hypocracy that is not easily undone. you also seem to have a real disdain for teenieboppers and their taste in music. well, i don't like the way it works either, but it's not going to change. there's a reason why is called pop music. it's what appeals to the masses. you stated in a response to a hate letter that you would like to be able to not worry about money. so how can you blame any of the backstreet boys or any other pop musician for doing what they do?

I don't blame them. Name one instance where I do. I blame anyone who buys music for any reason other than the music itself.

i would like to meet the person who would turn down complete financial freedom and legions of rabid fans because of something as petty as their taste in music.

So would I. I know I wouldn't turn it down.

besides, who's to say n'sync doesn't listen to a little morbid angel here and there? you also frequently say that you're annoyed. what do most people do with something that annoys them? say a fly? or an itch? in most cases they eliminate it, or at least try to. now why don't you do that? try to get out there and eliminate these things that annoy you so much. you said something things are just beyond your control, and you cannot do anything about them. have you tried? have you started a record label that only promotes "true" music?

Start a record label? Uh huh. And how would I go about doing that, being a broke college student and all? Hmm?

have you met with "ignorant" people, and actually given them reasons why they should go against what society is telling them to believe?

If I meet someone that's blindly ignorant, yes, I'll tell them my views. For example, there's a girl at work that's a blind follower of Christianity....whenever she mentions something about Christianity to me, I tell her my agnostic view of the subject....I dunno if it's getting through to her, but she's smarter on the subject because of it. So, yes I do do whatever is within my abilities to change things. Starting a record label isn't really within my abilities, now is it?

now, to further my point, i want to take a few selections directly from your website. i'll leave my comment on each section immediately afterwards.

Things that I cant fucking stand:

Country music - I'm sorry, but I loathe anything that has to do with hicks, and country music is made by and listened to by hicks, so fuck it.

here it is. hypocracy in all its glory. an open mind? loathing hicks? no, couldn't be. and furthermore, don't say you hate hicks. you've created your own definition of a hick. "Now, my definition of a hick is someone who is closed-minded, hypocritical, uneducated, and blindly follows Christianity." that comes directly off your site, as a response to somebody trying to make the same point i am. for more, read my next response.

And like I said to that guy, If I'm wrong for thinking closed-mindedness, hypocrisy, stupidity, and blind faith are unlikeable qualities, then I don't want to be right.

People that judge other people without knowing them...especially by the way they dress/look - You have no idea how many times I get weird looks in public, and I don't even dress that differently, I can't even imagine what it'd be like for someone who's very different. And the opposite holds true, don't judge someone because they're trendy, get to know them first...trendiness is just a character flaw, everyone has them...mine is that I'm easily annoyed. now here, you loath country music fans? but how many of them do you honestly know well, and still dislike?

Well, none, because I'm not friends with any country music fans because we typically have nothing in common.

and if there are any, i'd like their name and email address so i can ask them if they actually are aware of your disliking for them. oh wait, trendiness is a character flaw. so look past it. get to know the person. don't hate the "mindless sheep", get to know them first. just like you said, right?

Sure. But when you do start to get to know a person, and those unlikeable qualities I mentioned above start to show through, you tend not to want to get to know them better.

People who do things just cause it's 'cool' - Why must everyone let what others wear/do dictate their own actions? Everyone, stop being such goddamn sheep and be yourself for once. And those of you that are the opposite, you're anti-trendy, won't have anything to do with something once it's broken out from the underground, fuck you too, grow up and stop letting others actions dictate your own.

i love this one. now you stated that marilyn manson opened your eyes and sparked the birth of the new you. i'd like to know how you were exposed to marilyn manson. was he an old middle school friend of yours? have you known him on a personal level since his roots as a musician? or could it be possible that popular media attracted your attention to this phenomenon that is manson? i don't suppose we'll ever know.

Sure you will. I saw "Sweet Dreams" on MTV way back in 95 or whenever it was, and it piqued my curiosity. What's your point?

Top 40 radio...the type of music they play and the people who listen to it - The same thing goes for MTV...it's the McMusic theory. It's just mass produced bullshit to give the masses something they can listen to and not have to think about other than how cute the 'band' members are.

here is the very best part. i'll agree with you, top 40 radio sucks. but guess what, a good portion of the bands you listed, yeah, they're on the charts. oh look, creed is currently number one on billboard.and yes, they are in fact a "deeply religious, admittedly christian-rock band" as you so eloquently put it.(http://www.billboard.com/billboard/charts/bb200.jsp)

Take a guess when I first started liking Creed. Back when My Own Prison first came out, and songs like Torn and My Own Prison and One were getting a little airplay......and the only media outlet that would even touch them, at least here around Cleveland, was classic rock radio.....they were too heavy for top 40 and MTV, too soft for hard rock stations. But I liked what I heard and went out and bought their cd in the summer of 97.

and limp bizkit, wow they're right up there huh?

Their first cd was good. Everything since then has been shit. Shit put out simply to make money.

i distinctly remember staind being on one of those NOW cd's. was it 7 or 8? i can't recall.

Dysfunction was good. It was heavy and it rocked....their new cd, the one that made them popular, is soft and whiny....not my preference.

and incubus, under the 40 mark.

Science was an amazing cd....Make Yourself was decent, but they started going soft, so my love for them started dying out...and now their new cd is even softer, and I don't even give a damn about 'em anymore....although I do listen to Science rather often.

but you're right, it is all about the music. and i suppose you set out to find these bands on your own. you weren't informed by radio and/or tv.

Sure, I heard of some of them on the radio and TV, but I notice how you only mentioned the popular bands...what about the bands that don't get any airplay whatsoever...like Dimmu Borgir, In Flames, Therion, Dog Fashion Disco, Mushroomhead, and probably about half of my collection? How would I have heard about them if they've never been played on American radio or tv? Hmmm? If you wanted to break it down, I'd say about 40% of them I heard of on radio/tv, another 40% I heard about through friends or the internet, and the other 20% I heard at concerts.

that would just be too mindless-sheep-like. and as far as MTV goes, i'm just going to guess that i've seen music videos on MTV by about 95% of the bands you listed as your favorites. who would have ever thought that possible?

No one, because it's not possible. Out of the 76 bands I list as my favorites, I counted approximately 45 that have been played on MTV. That doesn't quite come out to 95% now does it? And really, you took me way out of context.....what I was talking about is relying solely on popular media to hear about bands...you're missing out on so much because you're letting someone else dictate what you hear. I'm just preaching to get out there and find new music for yourself.

so there it is my friend. there is my viewpoint on your website. i respect that you're trying to get your opinions out there, but honestly, you're going about it all the wrong ways. creating a website in which you call people idiots is no way to prove that you are an accepting individual.

Well, I am an accepting individual. Except when it comes to stupidity and closed-mindedness. That's all there is to it.

i don't want you to feel like this is any sort of attack. i must say i agree with you to a certain extent. it's just your approach that's off. and i hope this whole letter gets posted on your hatemail section. when it does, would you please let me know? i'm just dying to see what i worded wrong enough to give you ample reason to come back at me with some witty excuse. until then, good day to you.
xwillx

No, you'll know when I e-mail you back. I never just post my responses up there without giving the other person a chance to reply back. But out of all those e-mails, only 2 of them actually replied back, and one of them was an apology. *shrug*

p.s. isn't it funny how i made a valid arguement without a single swear word?

Umm not really. Actually I don't really give a shit. Oops! I swore! *gasp*

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From: Satansbarbecue@aol.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: YOU

Hey, Your site made me laugh. But, you hypocritical fat bastard, how can you rant and rave about being your own person and not following others when you want to be Maynard so badly your nickname is RevMaynard,

I want to be Maynard? Nice assumption, ass. I think he's a great artist, singer, and has a brilliant mind, but that doesn't necessarily mean I want to be the man.

and you copy "four degrees" from their Undertow album?

When I talk about being your own person, I'm talking about letting what other people do or listen to affect what you do or listen to. I'm a big fan of the band, so I named my site after one of their songs that i thought would sound good as a website...it's a tribute to the band. Now if someone else had named their site fourdegrees.com in reference to tool, and I then made mine fourdegrees.net, then I'd be a hypocrite

And you say you want to be like Henry Rollins.

I admire the man. I realize I'm not perfect, but if I were perfect, that's my idea of it. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking up to someone and modeling your own self-improvement after said person.

Take some advice from that heroine addicted, head-blowing-off dead man named Kurt Cobain who said that "trying to be someone else is a waste of the person you are," or something along those lines.

I'm not trying to be someone else. I use a nickname that references the lead singer of my favorite band, period. And I admire someone else. You read into me a bit too much there buddy, and you came up a bit off.

You must have a hell of a nice personality though, because your girlfriend is way above your league. I'd never let her go if I were you, she's the best you can possibly do, fatty. :-D

It's called love, you superficial jackass. Try it sometime.

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From: Donny Pearson
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Website

You fat fuck.

Nice to meet you too.

How could you say that you feel no sympathy for what happened on September 11th?

Where did I say that I feel no sympathy? Sure, I feel sympathy for those who lost loved ones in the incident....but I said until it affects my life, I don't really give a shit.

They were terrible fucking acts, you fuck up.

No shit they were. I didn't say they weren't.

Living in Oklahoma City i experienced terrorism first hand. Now you get on ur website saying that it doesen't involve you. Fuck that. It's involves ur chubby ass whether you like it or not.

How so?

You also said that it's "Our own fucking fault." you said we "stuck our noses in their buisness". You need to understand that we fought alongside afghanistan against russia during the 80's. Aghanies love the U.S..

I realize we fought alongside Afghanistan against Russia. However, That's not what I'm talking about, genius.

However you shit for brains freak, Osama Bin Laden (Saudi Arabic) HATES the U.S.. He acused the U.S. of invading "holy" territory something that the Afghan government didn't give a flying fuck about. We never stuck our noses in anyones fucking buisness.

Yes we did, we supported Israel, causing most Arabic Muslims to hate us.

We never investigated anything that Bin Laden was doing. He's not a military force so we have no clue where or how to spy on him. Also, we didn't start shit with him or afghanistan.

No, not him personally, but like I said, we supported Israel. That pissed them off because it was none of our fucking business.

Just remember the first bombing of the WTC's a few years ago. That was when Bin Laden made it known who he was and what he stood for. You can't say anything bad us investigating, if you will, other countries that we consider threats to or national security. The people that make the decisions to send investigators over to other countries have saved our lives numerous times by disabling nuclear weapons in the country of Iraq.

Right, I think investigating countries that are a threat to us is a great idea....it's called self-defense. But supporting one country in a struggle that has nothing to do with us is retarded. It's just going to piss the other side off, and when the other side is full of insane fuckers that'll die for their religion, that's not a good idea.

If the only thing you get off on is dissing the U.S. then you should get the fuck out.

First off, I don't get off on it. Second, I realize this is a great country, the greatest country in the world to live in, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to criticize our government. If people never criticized their government, there would be no United States, we'd still be a British colony.

Ur the type of child that is shuned because you don't understand governement issues then you talk about shit the the bombings like you know exactly what ur talking about. Keep ur mouth shut. it's amazing what a high school education has to offer.

First, It's amazing what a high school education has to offer? I'm in college, jackass. Second, it's kind of ironic -- In those 3 sentences you made 5 spelling errors, didn't capitalize the beginning of a sentence, and made a statement like '...then you talk about shit the the bombings...'. And you're telling me it's amazing what a high school education has to offer? Get your flag out of my face and go away already.

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From: Noah Oldham
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Your Website

Though your website is full of interesting factual information about your anger towards society........I wonder about you. Something intrigues me. You say you don't want to be a sheep but to me you seem like another sheep that just has to be different and slam religion and listen to heavy music and talk about how everyone else is a sheep. That is a growing trend. Anger is a growing trend in our nation.

Think what you will. You can believe I'm the way I am because it's a trend if you want. But the truth is, I only have the views and beliefs I do because of what I see every day in our country. Oh, and I don't slam religion...religion can be good in a few instances...what I do slam however is organized religion, and people who follow an organized religion just because it's what their parents followed...I mean, you've got a brain, fucking use it. And I'll have you know I don't listen to just heavy music. They Might Be Giants, Ben Folds Five, Soul Coughing, Mono Puff.....that's not heavy music, now is it? Yet they're all probably in the top 10 of my favorite bands. You seem to have studied me to try and find as many flaws as you could, yet you missed that fact. Don't you feel like an ass.

First, if you wanna be different.........understand the religions you are bashing. Obviously you don't, you misquotes lines from the Bible numerous times.

Hmmm...ok, you'll have to point this out to me, because I don't remember ever quoting the Bible. In fact I think either a) you're a moron and think I quoted the Bible when it was really maybe someone I was quoting? I don't know. Or b) you're making it up to make your argument sound better. Either way, I never tried to quote the bible.

Are you tough?

Not Really.

You must be, anyone that can name their webpage house of sin must be as ripped as the Devil himself.

Actually I didn't name it. I was having trouble coming up with a name, and one of my friend's mentioned that, and I liked the way it sounded, so I decided to use it. Stop trying to overdramatize everything.

Your 5'9" frame must be a sight to see.

Umm...ok. Was that an attempt at a sarcastic insult towards my height?

I am really wondering.....did something bad happend in your highschool years to spur such a hostile takeover of hatred towards everyone that is mainsteam. Or so you say is mainstream.

I don't hate everything that's mainstream. I hate everything that's produced simply to make money and not because it's good music. And I dislike anyone who likes music for any reason other than the music itself. In fact, I think anyone who shuns anything mainstream just because it's mainstream is just as bad as people who like it because it's mainstream. All I'm trying to say is don't let what other people like or do dictate what you like or do.

You wouldn't even believe that crap I have gone through here in college already for my beliefs. Teachers casting judgement because of the way I look and act. If you stand for what you say you do, you would back me here.

Sure, I'd have to give you respect for standing up for and not backing down on your beliefs. Really, I don't give a shit about you though.

Hey, don't judge by appearance right? by what a person wears or how they look? Then why do you hate country music and hicks? "Get to know them first" I believe that is a pretty close quote to you.

I hate country music because I find it annoying. Sue me. Now, my definition of a hick is someone who is closed-minded, hypocritical, uneducated, and blindly follows Christianity. Sorry if I don't find any of those to be likeable qualities.

Before bashing on others and what they believe and say.........turn the finger right around, eat a big turd sandwich and smile and enjoy life. it will be alright in the morning.

Eat a big turd sandwich? Uh huh...ok. Oh, and I do enjoy life. I love life.

And then he actually replied...

From: Noah Oldham
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Re: Your Website

Ok Rev.............first not a mormon.

You're not a mormon? Hmm..ok.

If you don't like organized religion because some people follow it blindly, then say that. You say that it is all bad and you are knocking it. That is bull.

Ok, tell me what purpose it serves. You can worship whatever God you want, but why must you follow an organized religion to do it? Why do you have to go to a building one day a week to worship God and have someone preach to you about what is right and wrong? Do it on your own terms. Organized religion serves no other purpose than to scare people and make money.

I really don't care if you care about me. But i have dealt with people like you before. I checked out your website and your girlfriends. I saw pictures of you. you can understand a lot after hearing from the person and seeing what they look like. You are a scared little boy. You are afraid of God. And you should be. We all should be.

*sigh* I should've known this was coming. I thought you might actually be able to hold a conversation with me without preaching, but I guess not. It's in your blood isn't it.

You have probably been beaten up alot as a youngen and seek revenge at all the young white arian descent.

Actually, I've only been in one fight in my entire life, and that was in 1st grade....the teacher broke us up before anyone beat anyone up. Looks like you're wrong again. Oh, and I seek revenge at all the young white arian descent? First, not only is that not a complete sentence, but I am young, white, and of aryan descent....sooo, I'm seeking revenge from..my..self? Stop and think about that one, skippy.

Don't blaim society and dont' blaim religion. IT's your own fault for the way you look at life.

Blaim? Nice spelling. Ok let me interrupt this here for just a second. It's hard to take you seriously when you can't spell simple words or form complete and somewhat grammatically correct sentences. Ok, I'm done laughing now. Yes, it is my own fault for the way I look at life. I could stand idly by and not comment on things that piss me off or annoy me or I find to be simply stupid. But I'm sorry, I don't like to ignore problems and just pretend they don't exist.

You said you love life? how, all you do is blast on everyone else. If you love life so much then why bash on others.........do productive things with your time.

First, I do love life. I love my girlfriend. I love music. I love everything that's good in my life. Second, I don't bash others...I bash ideas and stupidity.

And now..........a hick? I Christian is a hick? That shows your intelligence. So the blackest of black people that live in the jungles of Africa that are Christians are hicks huh? wow, that's amazing I never thought of it like that.

Jesus fucking christ....you really lack comprehension skills. This is exactly what I said: "Now, my definition of a hick is someone who is closed-minded, hypocritical, uneducated, and blindly follows Christianity." Notice the AND in there. That means a hick is someone who is all of those. Not just a Christian, but all 4 of those. Not just one...all four. Got it yet?

I saw your music selection...........that was great. I like some of those bands, but anyone that got a life changing revelation from doing a paper on Marilyn Manson is a fruit.

Ha...I'm a fruit? Nice.....a Christian just called me a fag. That's hilarious. How Christian-like.

And not just the mainstream would agree. I feel bad that you have to think so lowly about "organized religion". And about pressing religion on others. But if you knew the Christian religion you would know that spreading it is one of the main points.

Yeah, basically that means Christianity preaches ignorance and intolerance of others beliefs. Tell me, why did you choose Christianity over any other religion?

If I was going to go to hell and then I stumbled upon something that was going to keep me from it, I would want to share that with everyone I knew............or cared about........I am sorry that others have actually loved someone like you enough to not want you to burn forever. That is just plain rude! The fact of the matter is..........we all need Jesus.

Ok....tell me why we all need Jesus.

And there is no reason for you to bash people because of that.

I already said it, but...I bash ideas and stupidity, not people.

Use all the crude language you want in reply, I have heard it all. Take a little time away from the computer screen and experience real life! Just as an experiment to your atheism.

Sorry, I'm too busy working and going to school and spending time with my girlfriend to experience real li...err wait...that IS real life! Imagine that.

Quit being so close-minded and actually go to a church with life in it that talks about Jesus and experiences him.

There's churches that don't do that?

You call Christians closed minded, but we all are.

Yeah, I know you are. Glad we could agree. Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to point out where I misquoted the Bible.

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From: XtrmlyHstl@aol.com
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: your website!

do you have any kind of life? i read your bio and am completely fucking depressed about your pathetic existance. I will admit that TOOL rocks more than anything before but for your ambition to be a professional slacker,

Oh come on, what could be better than doing absolutely nothing all day and not having to worry about money. Or not even just sitting around not doing anything, just not having to work. You act like it’s a new concept, like most people really do like working and wouldn’t want to have enough money so they wouldn’t have to work.

Geeze maybe you could turn a bit of your distain for life into a positive ambition. you are going Nowhere fast, my brotha from anotha mutha.Wake up!!!

First off, I do have a positive ambition. Not once on my site do mention anything about my schooling or future plans, other than where I go to school, yet you form assumptions about me. Second, ‘my brotha from anotha mutha’ …….uh huh…right…that one speaks for itself.

Have you even been near a pussy since birth? Im sure women are just beating down your door with your lofty goals!!!

Have I even been near a pussy since birth? Well, I do live with my girlfriend, so umm yeah, does last night count?

Maybe instead of sitting on your ass making a gay website,you could get a real fucking job with an attached life to go with it.

Umm let’s see, I go to school for computer networking/telecommunications, and do just about the same thing at work. Granted, it’s not high paying or anything like that, but it’s good for part time while I’m finishing school. And I should get a life to go with it? Hmm let’s see, go look at the main page and look at how often I update the site…like once every two months. Are you too fucking stupid to realize that means I don’t have time for the site?

I mean, I have my own site too, butat least i paid someone to make it. He made money and I made money at my JOB while it was being created. It was a Win Win deal for the both of us. Maybe you could do something like that! Just think of the possibilities! maybe a Real hot meal.

What the fuck? People like you shouldn’t be allowed to have websites. The reason I made my site is because I enjoy making websites, it’s fun. What the fuck is the point in paying someone to do it? So you can seem cool when you tell everyone you have your own webpage? Ooh yeah, I’ll pay someone to make a page that looks nothing like I want it and doesn’t represent my personality in the least, because I paid someone else to do it, but hey at least I’ll be hip.

Well, Im sorry I stumbled upon your site, and I may be permanently traumatized. Here Play this a while and maybe your outlook can improve.I know mine did. Try to stay out of the gutter and off welfare ya geek.

Ok, just because you sent me a huge ass attachment, which annoys the fuck out of me, this will be going on my hate mail section along with your e-mail address. So just to let you know, I’m not responsible for what my visitors do with your address.

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This one is another little shit that anonymously signed my guestbook, so now I have to address him publicly rather than privately....sucks for him.

I'm sorry, but you have to be the most ignorant person I have ever encountered. Don't think it is because of your religious viewpoints, because I really don't care who you worship, and/or don't worship. I'm talking about your constant hypocritical remarks. First you are talking about how you hate country music and saying "... anything that involves tight-ass jeans has to suck cock," but then go on to say that you hate people who judge others by the way they dress or look. That seems pretty contradictory to me.

*Sigh* Are you uncapable of comprehending sarcasm and/or satirical attempts at humor? It was a little remark thrown in for the hell of it. I don't dislike anyone because they wear tight jeans, I may dislike them because they listen to country, but not because of the way they dress.

Next, why the bashing of the "teenie boppers"?

Why not? They're fake, materialistic little fucks that like the music they do for all the wrong reasons, all of which have nothing to do with the actual music itself.

Are they hurting you? I mean, please tell me if they are somehow twisting your arm around and stabbing you in the gut with a spoon, because then I will definitely apologize.

No, they're not hurting me specifically. However, they take airtime away from musicians that deserve it. On one hand you've got a couple of guys that know a few dance moves who were brought together by an aging overweight corporate cocksucker, so they were basically handed the fame and fortune they're getting. Then on the other hand say you've got a band that's been together since high school, they've been playing to small crowds in cramped little clubs for years, they've basically worked their asses off, yet they end up getting nothing. Even if they do make it big, if they're not teeny-bopper friendly pop music, they're still not going to get what they deserve, because pop music will still be everywhere, leaving no room for them.

Where is all of this rage coming from, man? And just because you don't agree with Christianity, or other organized religions does not mean that you must shun them and tell them they are all idiots.

Well, I do believe I'm allowed to have an opinion, and in my opinion most (read: 99.9%) people who believe in something they (or anyone else for that matter) have never been witness to, are fucking morons. And don't even mention the word shun around me. Do you have any idea what happens when you live in a god-fearing christian community and it's known that you're godless? That's right, you're shunned, and that's why only the people who read this site and a few of my close friends know the real me, so fuck off.

I'm sorry if the "cool people" made fun of you in high school because you are a reject, but that doesn't give you the right to hate the world.

Glad you know me so well that you know what I was like 4 years ago. I don't recall ever being made fun of. Sure, I wasn't exactly the most popular, but who is. And by the way, not everyone who has an attitude like me, who as you put it, hates the world, is that way because they were made fun of in high school. I'm thinking you need to stop making assumptions about people.

Just lettin ya know man, you might want to check yourself on this.

Should I.....check myself, before I wreck myself?! Ok, yeah, that was bad.

p.s. you left DEFTONES off your list reject!

Wow, so now you're telling me what bands I have to listen to, eh? Jesus christ, go the fuck away already.

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This one was an ICQ conversation I had with some dude whose nickname was "J.C. Believer", but I think it still classifies as hate mail.

Hello whats up?

not much

Soo, are you a Christian?

nope

I am,
My dad's a Pastor.

wow, i almost feel sorry for you

what do you mean your sorry for me?

because of the fact that you have a pastor as a dad therefore you probably weren't allowed to grow up with an open mind when it comes to religion

THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!

ok, enlighten me

Jesus cares for you and EVERYONE so much that he died for us!!!
Thats why I'm a Christian

you completely missed my point
have you ever looked into any other religion? have you ever opened a book and read about other religions?

No because that ONLY book I'll ever read is the word of GOD and worship Him forever (NO MATTER WHAT!!!)

wow, you're ignorance and closed-mindedness is a perfect example of why organized religion is not only unnecessary, but makes this world such an untolerable place to live

your wronge
I'm praying for you for GOD to open you mind more!

me? open my mind? i'm the one that's researched, that's taken classes on religion and made an educated decision about the subject....whereas you just follow it because your daddy said it's the 'right' way

No he didn't even say that so SHUT THAT HOLE IN YOUR FACE!!!!

oh, really? then how did you become a christian? you looked into all the religions and then deduced that it was the right one for you? if that were the case, I could at least respect your decision, but you said yourself that's not the case

No
I just belive in GOD why do I have to ask you just to be a Christian or Not???? No I didn't SOO LIKE I SAID SHUT THAT HOLE IN YOUR FACE!!!!!

"I just belive in GOD why do I have to ask you just to be a Christian or Not????"
what the hell did you just attempt to say? go back to 4th grade and learn proper grammar so that we can have a decipherable conversation, ok?

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From: Jason Godfrey
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: Your site

Hey man, why are you so against GOD?

I'm not against god, I just lean towards the side that says he doesn't exist.

He gave you life, whether you believe it or not.

And how do you know that as fact? YOU DON'T! You BELIEVE that, therefore it's not fact, so stop fucking talking like it is you sheep.

by the way if you don't believe in GOD, what do you believe in? Evolution , the big bang theory? PLEASE! You want to talk about man made!

I believe in myself. I believe that things we see are real, and things we can't see or prove to exist aren't real until they're proven or seen. And I'm not saying evolution or the big bang theory ARE what happened, cause I don't know, and no one really does for sure, but they're a hell of a lot more believable than the "*poof* man now exists" theory

I know your probably thinking i'm an idiot by now, but that's not important, what is important is that JESUS REALLY DID DIE FOR YOUR SIN'S AND MINE , and whether you believe it or not YOU and I will both stand before him one day and give an account of our live's!

You BELIEVE we will. Christ, stop talking like you think you have all the fucking answers, because you don't....no one does, but if you ask me, people who blindly follow "beliefs" instead of trying to find the answers are the most clueless of them all.

I have been a CHRISTIAN for a long time, and i can tell you from experience, I could not make it one second in this cruel world without him!

Damn dude, you sound like a drug addict. "Without my crack, I couldn't make it one second in this cruel world" If you're that weak that you need a crutch to hold you up and keep you from killing yourself, fine, but myself and most sane people don't need it.

also, could i share with you some of my favorite quote's. "IF YOUR LIVING LIKE THERE IS NO GOD, YOU'D BETTER BE RIGHT

If I understand how your god works, he'll understand why I didn't just follow what I was taught and pressured into believing, yet stood on my own and had my OWN beliefs (you might want to try it). Hmmm...punishing the ones that actually put alot of thought into the question and refuse to blindly believe something just cause you were told it, and then rewarding the ones that just go along with what they're told as a child and don't stop to think about what might actually be true? Doesn't make much sense and doesn't sound like a very forgiving god to me. Also, here's a quote from me along those same lines: "If you're living your life by a single organized religion, you'd better have picked the right one."

"THERE ARE NO AETHEIST'S IN HELL, THEY'RE ALL BELIEVER'S"

Hey, here's an idea: you don't know that there is a hell, so shutup and go away already.

"SATAN IS A LIAR, AND HE'S LYING TO YOU"

Maybe if satan actually existed and I conversed with him on a daily basis, then I might give that a little thought, but he doesn't exist, and he doesn't talk to me, so you can shutup now.

well i guess i'll be going now, but remember GOD LOVE'S YOU! even if you don't love him!

Go thump bibles somewhere else, there's nothing I hate worse than someone trying to preach to me. If you want to have an intelligent conversation about religion, then fine...I've had plenty of those with Christians and I respect them, but I have no respect for people who try to preach to me, it's the supreme insult. "Hey you, even though we're talking about something that neither of us know about for sure, you're wrong and I'm right, and if you don't change to my way then you're going to suffer for eternity." Leave me alone and go preach to someone who gives a damn.

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From: Dan Fischer
To: revmaynard@fourdegrees.net
Subject: site

Dude, i came to your site looking for coal chamber lyrics, i got them, but then i started reading about you. Ya know what you are a fuck. Your entire site is based around complaining.

Not really, only one section, the rants section, is based around my bitching. It's called getting things off your chest. It's either that or go shoot up a school like those two Columbine fucks did.

Yer a damn hypocrite and you know what i cant fucking stand, people who complain.

First off, HOW am I a hypocrite?? I get people saying I'm a hypocrite but no one ever says exactly why. Second, you're complaining about my complaining.....kinda hypocritical wouldn't you say?

if you were real like you say you are than you wouldnt complain, Just accept shit for what it is.

What the fuck? Maybe everyone isn't like you, I can't sit by and see the fucked up things I do without at least bitching about it...sure maybe it doesn't help any, but it makes me feel better when I get things off my chest, and I'm not in this for anyone but myself, so fuck it.

If you dont like something change it or ignore it,

Ok, how would you suggest I change the things I complain about? It's quite simply not possible, and I'm not the type of person that can ignore things that irritate me.

The only reason im writing is cause your site really sucks ass, i mean it really pissed me off,

Good. There's 2 things I want to happen when people read my site. 1. I want it to make them stop and think about how fucked up some things are or 2. I want to piss them off, so I guess I did my job by pissing you off.

i really hate it when people complain, because all it means is that they are so stuck on their shitty lives that they truly believe that there is no way for them to change their reality, they are worried about what will happen. Just take a chance and fuck some shit up.

Glad to see you got your PHD in psychology after all. And there's alot more to having a shitty life than the things you can change.....alot of things happen that are beyond a person's control, you know.

And yes this world is all fucked up and geared towards the sheep, but ya know what, if you arnt a sheep anymore than dont worry about what those motherfuckers are doing.

Ok, if you can ignore stupidity and ignorance, fine, but I can't....it irritates me too much to just let shit go.

But yeah fuck god. Just like how trendy clothes arnt for everyone, a trendy ass fake god is NOT for me. Fuck that.

Hooray for you.

But to smoking i say get outa my face and watch me die. Later

Sure, you can say that now. But I'll bet you anything that you won't be saying that when you're in the hospital dying from lung cancer.

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This one wasn't an e-mail, but a guestbook entry, and since they didn't leave an e-mail address, I have to defend myself publically. Watch out for all the damn exclamation points...I damn near lost an eye reading this.

Name: "Jennifer"

I ended up on your site because I was searching for the lyrics to Creed. How funny it is that many of their songs have christian references and ideas and here you have them on your site while at the same time bashing all sorts of people!

So what if they have christian references and ideas? I kinda like their music...is there some rule that I'm not allowed to like or even have their lyrics on my site just cause they're Christians and I'm not? Now if they were a deeply religious, admittedly Christian-rock band, that'd be a different story. And I don't think I bash all sorts of people...really only idiots and people that annoy me, which are usually one and the same.

You are sitting here sayng that you hate people who judge others etc., yet you have a whole "fuck" list of people whom you are judging based on things that you just so happen to dislike!

I'm judging those people I listed? I think not. All those are there for a specific personal reason or experience I've had, which you have no idea about. And if I remember correctly, only a couple of those are even about certain people, most of them are about other things like love and college and jealousy...all of which are there for reasons that pertain to events in my life

Who Cares! Everyone has different tastes and likes and it does not make any one any better or worse.

That makes absolutely no sense. A persons tastes and likes CAN make them a better or worse person. By your logic, a person who has a taste for raping little children is no worse than a nun, simply because that person's sexual taste is for children.

Don't talk about things that YOU know nothing about!

I try not to. If you think I have, please point it out to me.

You are such the typical angry young man,

I wouldn't consider myself angry. In person I'm really quite laid-back and mellow. I think annoyed is a much better word.

I have known many in my day and they are usually around your age, the ones with a clue grow out of it, so get a clue and get over it, the rebel and angry non conformist bit is really boring and oh so predictable!

First, the ones who grow out of it are little bitches that end up conforming because they can't handle being different and having different ideals and beliefs. That or they just keep it all inside and have no way to release it...that's how I used to be, but this page now acts as a release for my bitching and frustrations about the world. Second, rebel and angry non-conformist bit? So you're saying my life is some sort of act? Some sort of front I put on to entertain? Just..fuck you, that's like a slap in the face. How would you like it if someone came up to you and said your lifestyle is a joke? Go away already.

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From: "a r"
To: revmaynard@zdnetonebox.com
Subject:

First, could you not think of anything more origional thatn revmaynard? Tool kicks ass but come on.

I never claimed to be original. I'm one of the least creative, most unoriginal bastards out there.

Second, Atheist believe in nothing...period! No heaven, no hell, no satanism, etc.

Almost but not quite. The definition of atheism is "The disbelief or denial of the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being." I don't believe in God, therefore I'm an atheist. But I do agree with alot of the ideas of Satanism, but not enough to call myself a Satanist. So I consider myself an atheist.

If you find yourself drawn to anything at all you're considered agnostic. What do agnostics believe? The simple definition, which you may need, is "I don't know." Agnostics do not know what they believe in, they're confused, as are you.

Wrong. Agnosticism is "The belief that there can be no proof either that God exists or that God does not exist." I deny the existance of a God, therefore I'm an atheist not an agnostic.

It's alright, there are a lot of us who are searching for ourselves or what we like. It never ends. Also, all the hate, fuck this, fuck that, etc. Enough is enough. It's alright to get pissed, but find an outlet and let it go man...

What the hell do you think my page is, you dumb fuck? This page is an outlet....I'm not as pessimistic or negative in person as I seem to be on my page.

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From: "Ben Potts"
To: revmaynard@chronicwrestling.com
Subject: Awww!!!

Awwwwww!!!! Poor baby! My parents didnt give me everything when I was a kid, so I'm gonna grow up and be an atheist.

First off, how the fuck do you know anything about me when I was a kid. And second, what the hell does what I was given as a kid have to do with my religious ideas?

Shit, muthafuka, if God gave us proof of him, then every fuckhead like you would believe in him, and heaven would be full of pricks like you.

You are an idiot. If there was proof of him, it wouldn't be a matter of believing in him...it would be a proven fact that he existed. And if I ignore your little oversight, you're telling me that the only requirement to get into heaven is to believe in God? Wow, I never thought it was so easy.

So before you go dogging on Christianity and the Bible, think about it, anyone could believe in God,

Duh. Anyone COULD do anything they want....I COULD worship that dust bunny under my bed as my creator....I COULD go kill a dozen people. What's your point?

He tests us to sort out the true believers and the faces.

The faces? Just...shutup...you're a moron.

But y'know the wierd thing about it, where i'm from the rejected people like you are all big Christians. Hmmmmm, kinda wierd.

....And? Am I supposed to care?

Anyway if you would like to learn more of Benology, email me.

That's ok, I've seen all I care to see.

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From: "Ry Kins"
To: revmaynard@chronicwrestling.com
Subject: the name of Reverand Maynard

Hey you piece of shit.You better recognize the name Reverand Maynard belongs to the man known as Maynard James Keenan.Show a little fucking respect for what Tool represents.Change your name, email address, and website name.I shouldn't have to take action but Tool deserves what they worked so hard for. RESPECT!!!!!

You just don't get it do you? Every once in awhile I get someone like you spewing shit about how I'm disrespecting the name. Bullshit. I chose this nick as a sign of respect. If I were to use your logic, I should use a name of someone I disrespect. Ok, I'll call myself PuffDaddy from now on...that makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah, you may want to learn how to use punctuation too. It makes you look like a dumbass when you don't put spaces between your sentences.

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From: Cgb12380
To: revmaynard@zdnetmail.com
Subject: (no subject)

I am very offended that you use a great mans name. You are a fake and a fat fellatio god. I don't like you and I wish you would burn in hell.

I wish there weren't as many idiots like yourself in the world, but we can't always get what we want, now can we?

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From: MyLeNkO
To: revmaynard@zdnetmail.com
Subject: WHO THE HELL........

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???

I am Mike Blaser...who are you?

REVMAYNARD???

HAHAHAHAH!!!!!

IT SHOULD BE REVGAYNERD!!

If you're going to insult me, at least try and be original. I've heard that one at least a dozen times now.

GOD DAMN..... GROW UP AND WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SO DAMN CLOSE-MINDED.

I'm closed minded? Considering I fucking can't stand closed minded people, I don't think I am. Please explain why you think that....you can't say something and not have a reason for thinking that.

YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THESE "TRENDY" PEOPLE, YET LITTLE DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE ONE YOURSELF.

Please elaborate. I would like to know why you think that.

OH... AND BY THE WAY... IF AOL PEOPLE HAVE AN IQ BELOW 50, WELL GUESS WHAT....YOU FIT THE CATEGORY BITCH-ASS.

I do? Last I checked, I didn't have AOL.

YOU SAY SATANISM IS NOT WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL??? THE WHO DO THEY WORSHIP..... A MAN IN A BLACK ROBE...???

From what I have gathered, and how I have interpreted it, and how everyone else I know has interpreted it, it's a very hedonistic, atheistic idea...a symbol, not a deity....a way of life, not a religion.

HAVENT YOU EVER READ THE WRITINGS OF ANTON SZANDOR LAVEY?? THE DEVIL'S NOTEBOOK, SATANIST BIBLE, ETC.?? IT CLEARLY STATES THE WORSHIPPING OF LUCIFER, THE FALLEN ANGEL.

If that is so, which I don't believe it is, then it's just as bad as Christianity...anything that worships a supreme being is childish and pointless.

WHAT YOU DO KNOW ABOUT THE ELEMENTS OF SATANISM...IS....UMMM.....JACK SHIT!!!

Had to think about that one, eh?

Oh yeah, here's a tip...lose the caps lock..people tend to not take you seriously when you do that.

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From: Brandon Z
To: revmaynard@zdnetmail.com
Subject: You

Hey, you know what? According to your webite you are about 50% wrong. God rules and SATAN SUCKS!!!

That's like saying "Santa Claus rules and the Easter Bunny sucks!"

I say you are 50% wrong because at least you have a half decent taste in music. God is real and satan isnt.

Actually, neither one of them exist.

God created you and you should love him for that you asshole.

Gimme some proof that he did, then we'll talk.

people like you really piss me off.

And god-fearing sheep like you annoy me.

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From: Phun2bmike
To: revmaynard@zdnetonebox.com
Subject: dumbass

i was looking at your ABOUT ME page, and damn...youre a fuckin idiot. you first say dont judge people and you denounce 85% of the human race in your Things I Hate section. Get a life.

I'm a fucking idiot? Who's the one that uses aol and has the screen name "phun2bmike"? And who's the one that calls others a fucking idiot before politely asking them to explain themselves....you could've been civil about it, you know. When I say I hate it when people pre-judge others, I'm talking about how people are judged by the way they dress or how they look. I already made that abundantly clear, but apparantly you had your own interpretation of my words. I don't recall pre-judging anyone in that list. I say I hate Christianity, country music, smoking, when people do things for stupid reasons (i.e. cause it's cool), and just plain ignorance....but never once did I pre-judge someone. Get a clue before you go around spouting shit about people, buddy.

From: Phun2bmike
To: revmaynard@zdnetonebox.com
Subject: Re: dumbass

oh god, i read your email and got really pissed off. i then checked my MAIL YOU SENT box and i now apologize greatly. I was under the influence of a psychoactive substance id rather not name and i dont recall sending that email. btw, link me to your site so i can see what the hell i got so pissed off about.
thanx
mike

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From: Llighthead
To: revmaynard@zdnetonebox.com
Subject: fuck you

You can fucking suck a dick with your cigarette hatred. You already saidin your bio that you shouldn't judge people without knowing them first. You're a fucking hypocrite. Again, fuck you!

God damn you're an idiot. Where did I say I hated smokers? Point it out to me....please, I'd like to see it, cause I don't remember typing it. I said I hate smoking and I don't know why smokers would do it. It sounds to me like someone here smokes and is a little insecure about it.